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id: "pisquared:category/where-next"
type: "Pi-Squared category"
title: "Where Do We Go From Here?"
url: "https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/category/where-next"
summary: "After talking with scholars about the failures in delivering on the promise of Corporate Social Responsibility, Anita turned to the question of where do we..."
source: "Pi-Squared (pisquared.theburnescenter.org), The Burnes Center for Social Change"
licence: "none stated"
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# Where Do We Go From Here?

After talking with scholars about the failures in delivering on the promise of Corporate Social Responsibility, Anita turned to the question of where do we go from here. In this section, we discuss what it will truly take for companies and non-profit organizations to engage with governmental actors to solve public problems. The first major theme that arose from prior discussions is that trust must develop through longer-term conversations between leaders from different sectors. This takes time because the foundations for taking action in the public and private sectors are so different. In the private sector, experimentation and learning are valued. Flexibility and pivoting are important. In the public sector, stability, transparency and accountability are valued. Equanimity in the treatment of citizens means that experiments are difficult to design and implement. Learning must occur before doing rather than by doing.

A second theme reflects the logic that leads to the engagement of the private sector at all in solving public problems in partnership with government. Why and when is it necessary to involve private-sector actors?  Good answers to this question generally revolve around the expertise, capabilities, targeting, learning and ultimate scaling that can occur privately. Less good answers generally involve access to money and/or particular individuals. Indeed, many of us over index on the wealth of the private sector as compared to the enormous monetary resources and scale of the public sector. Overall, because collaboration across sectors is so costly and cumbersome, it’s important to make sure that the potential gains make the risks and costs worth incurring.

A third theme involves the importance of keeping the goals narrow so as to sustain engagement on both sides over time. Broad goals are a killer. Local, well-scoped impact projects that generate early “wins” are often critical for building collaborations that last.

## Conversations for Where Do We Go From Here?

- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Mabel Abraham](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/abraham-mabel): Barbara and Meyer Feldberg Associate Professor of Business, Columbia University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Arzi Adbi](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/adbi-arzi): Associate Professor of Strategic Management, National University of Singapore
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Paul Adler](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/adler-paul): Harold Quinton Chair Emeritus, University of Southern California
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Aparajita Agarawal](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/agarwal-aparajita): Assistant Professor, INSEAD
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Herman Aguinis](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/aguinis-herman): Avram Tucker Distinguished Scholar and Professor of Management, George Washington University School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Nur Ahmed](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/ahmed-nur): Assistant Professor, Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Howard Aldrich](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/aldrich-howard): Kenan Professor of Sociology and Professor of Entrepreneurship at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Sharon Alvarez](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/alvarez-sharon): Tom W. Olofson Chair in Entrepreneurship, Katz Graduate School of Business at the University of Pittsburgh
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Shaz Ansari](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/ansari-shaz): Professor of Strategy and Innovation and Professorial Fellow of St Edmund’s College, Cambridge University’s Judge Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Ashish Arora](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/arora-ashish): Rex D. Adams Professor, Fuqua School of Business, Duke University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Valentina Assenova](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/assenova-valentina): Edward B. and Shirley R. Shils Endowed Term Assistant Professor of Management, The Wharton School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tima Bansal](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/tima-bansal): Professor of Sustainability and Strategy, Ivey Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Michael Barnett](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/barnett-michael): Professor of Management & Global Business at Rutgers Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jay Barney](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/barney-jay): Presidential Professor of Strategic Management and Lassonde Chair of Social Entrepreneurship, University of Utah
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Sekou Bermiss](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/bermiss-sekou): Associate Professor, University of North Carolina Kenan-Flagler Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Vikram Bhargava](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/bhargava-vikram): Assistant Professor of Strategic Management & Public Policy and Philosophy, George Washington University School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Michael Bikard](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/bikard-michael): Associate Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship, INSEAD
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Julian Birkinshaw](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/birkinshaw-julian): Professor and Dean, Ivey School of Business, Western University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Christiane Bode](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/bode-christiane): Associate Professor of Strategy, Imperial College London
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Vanessa Burbano](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/burbano-vanessa): Donald C. Waite III Associate Professor of Social Enterprise, Columbia Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with John Bryson](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/bryson-john): McKnight Presidential Professor Emeritus, University of Minnesota
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Gabriel Cavalli](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/cavalli-gabriel): Assistant Professor, Copenhagen Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Chirantan Chatterjee](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/chirantan-chatterjee): Professor of Development Economics, Innovation, and Global Health at the University of Sussex
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jillian Chown](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/chown-jillian): Associate Professor of Management and Organizations, Northwestern University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Adam Clark](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/clark-adam): Assistant Professor of Strategic Management, Chapman University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Russ Coff](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/coff-russ): Thomas J. Falk Distinguished Chair in Business, University of Wisconsin
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Dan Cowen](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/dan-cowen): Senior Consultant, In Nova, and Build from Within Alliance
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Donal Crilly](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/crilly-donal): Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship, London Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Felipe Csaszar](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/csaszar-felipe): Alexander M. Nick Professor, University of Michigan
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Colleen Cunningham](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/cunningham-colleen): Assistant Professor of Strategy & Entrepreneurship, Eccles School of Business at the University of Utah
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Catherine D'Amato](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/damato-catherine): Chief Executive Officer of the Greater Boston Food Bank
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jerry Davis](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/jerry-davis): Gilbert and Ruth Whitaker Professor, Ross School of Business, University of Michigan
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Mark Desjardine](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/mark-desjardines): Harvey H. Bundy III T’68 Faculty Fellow, Dartmouth College’s Tuck School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Stefan Dimitriadis](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/dimitriadis-stefan): Assistant Professor, University of Toronto
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Laura Doering](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/doering-laura): Associate Professor, University of Toronto
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Rudy Durand](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/rudy-durand): Joly Family Purposeful Leadership Chair, HEC Paris
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Robert Eberhart](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/eberhart-robert): Associate Professor, University of San Diego
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Beth Embry](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/embry-beth): Assistant Professor of Management and Entrepreneurship, University of Kansas
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Barry Finette](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/finette-barry): Doctor and Professor of Pediatrics, University of Vermont
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Andrew Foley](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/foley-andrew): Assistant Professor of Management, New York University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Nicolai Foss](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/foss-nicolai): Professor of Strategy at the Department of Strategy and Innovation at the Copenhagen Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Lars Frederiksen](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/frederiksen-lars): Professor of Management, Aarhus University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Caroline Fry](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/fry-caroline): Associate Professor, University of Hawaii at Manoa
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Claudine Gartenberg](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/gartenberg-claudine): Associate Professor of Management, The Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Aline Gatignon](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/gatignon-aline): Associate Professor, HEC Paris
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Britta Glennon](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/glennon-britta): Assistant Professor of Management, Wharton School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Brent Goldfarb](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/goldfarb-brent): Dean’s Professor of Entrepreneurship, University of Maryland
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tim Gubler](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/gubler-tim): Associate Professor of Strategy, Brigham Young University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Ranjay Gulati](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/gulati-ranjay): Paul R. Lawrence MBA Class of 1942 Professor, Harvard Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Isin Guler](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/guler-isin): Professor of Strategy and the Sarah Graham Keenan Scholar, Kenan-Flagler School at the University of North Carolina
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Matt Harder](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/harder-matt): Founder, Civic Trust US
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Sharique Hasan](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/hasan-sharique): Associate Professor of Strategy, Duke University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Ezequiel Hernandez](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/hernandez-exequiel): Max and Bernice Garchik Family Presidential Professor, The Wharton School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Shon Hiatt](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/shon-hiatt): Associate Professor of Business Administration, University of Southern California
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Andrew Hoffman](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/hoffman-andy): Holcim Professor of Sustainable Enterprise, University of Michigan
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Yiannis Ioannou](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/ioannou-yiannis): Associate Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship at the London Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Carlos Inoue](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/inoue-carlos): Assistant Professor of Business Administration, University of Illinois
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Kris Irwin](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/irwin-kris): Assistant Professor of Management, Old Dominion University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Anne Jacqueminet](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/jaqueminetanne): Associate Professor of Law, Political Science & Society, Essec Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Nan Jia](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/jia-nan): Professor of Strategic Management, University of Southern California
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Diana Jue-Rajasingh](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/diana-jue-rajasingh): Assistant Professor of Strategic Management, Rice University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Sukhun Kang](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/sukhun-kang): Assistant Professor, University of California at Santa Barbara Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Rebecca Karp](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/karp-rebecca): Assistant Professor, Harvard Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Aseem Kaul](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/kaul-aseem): The Mosaic Company - Jim Prokopanko Professor for Corporate Responsibility, the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Hyunjin Kim](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/kim-hyunjin): Assistant Professor, INSEAD
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Andy King](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/andy-king): Allen and Kelli Questrom Professor in Strategy & Innovation, Boston University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Ilze Kivleniece](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/kivleniece-ilze): Assistant Professor, INSEAD
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Peter Klein](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/klein-peter): W. W. Caruth Endowed Chair and Professor of Entrepreneurship at Baylor University’s Hankamer School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Rem Koning](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/koning-rem): Mary V. and Mark A. Stevens Associate Professor, Harvard Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Wesley Koo](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/koo-wesley): Assistant Professor of Management & Organizations, Johns Hopkins Carey Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with DK Kryscynski](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/kryscynski-dk): Professor of Strategy, Rutgers University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Carol Kulik](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/kulikcarol): Bradley Distinguished Professor, Adelaide University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Brennan Lake](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/lake-brennan): Vice President of Social Impact & Enterprise Partnerships at Cuebiq
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jim Lavery](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/lavery-jim): Conrad N. Hilton Chair in Global Health Ethics, Emory University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Michael Leiblein](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/leiblein-michael): Professor, The Ohio State University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Christina Lubinski](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/lubinski-christina): Professor of History and Entrepreneurship, Copenhagen Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jiao Luo](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/luo-jiao): Associate Professor and Andrew Van De Ven Faculty Fellow, University of Minnesota
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tom Lyon](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/lyontom): Dow Chair of Sustainable Science, Technology and Commerce, University of Michigan
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Luiz Mesquita](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/mesquita-luiz): Associate Professor of Management, Arizona State University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Amisha Miller](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/milleramisha): Assistant Professor of Management and Organizations, New York University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Mahka Moeen](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/moeen-mahka): Associate Professor and Skillrud Family Chair, University of Wisconsin
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tom Moliterno](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/moliterno-tom): Full Professor of Behavioral Strategy, Amsterdam School of Business and Economics
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Leah Morris](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/leah-morris): Executive Director of “Encode: AI for Science,” a Fellowship Program of Pillar VC
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Robert Nason](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/nason-robert): Associate Professor of Strategy and Organization, McGill
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Arielle Newman](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/newman-arielle): Assistant Professor, Whitman School of Management, Syracuse University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jackson Nickerson](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/nickerson-jackson): Edward Jones Dean, St. Louis University's Chaifetz School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Christine Nolder](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/nolder-christine): Associate Professor of Accounting and Business Law, Suffolk University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Kate Odziemkowska](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/odziemkowska-kate): Assistant Professor of Strategic Management at the University of Toronto
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with James Orbinski](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/orbinski-james): Principal, Massey College, University of Toronto
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Bukky Oyedeji](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/oyedeji-bukky): Assistant Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship, London Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Pinar Ozcan](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/ozcan-pinar): Professor of Entrepreneurship and Innovation, Said Business School, Oxford University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Voni Pamphile](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/pamphile-voni): Associate Professor of Strategic Management and Public Policy, George Washington University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Damon Phillips](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/phillips-damon): Professor of Management at the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Lamar Pierce](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/pierce-lamar): Beverly & James Hance Professor of Organization & Strategy, Washington University in St. Louis
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Michael Pirson](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/pirson-michael): Professor and the Felix E. Larkin Chair for Humanistic Management, Fordham University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Christos Pitelis](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/pitelis-christos): Professor of Strategy & International Business, University of Southampton Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Phanish Puranam](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/puranam-phanish): Roland Berger Chaired Professor of Strategy and Organization Design, INSEAD
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Eppa Rixey](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/rixey-eppa): Research Affiliate, MIT Sloan School of Management
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Michelle Rogan](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/rogan-michelle): Professor of Strategy, Oxford University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Lori Rosenkopf](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/rosenkopf-lori): Simon and Midge Palley Professor, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Rachelle Sampson](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/sampson-rachelle): Associate Professor, Smith School of Business, University of Maryland.
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Rob Seamans](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/seamans-rob): Professor, New York University's Stern School of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Myles Shaver](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/shaver-myles): Associate Dean of Faculty and Research at the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School of Management where he leads the Center for Integrative Leadership
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tim Simcoe](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/simcoe-tim): Professor of Strategic Management, Boston University Questrom School of Management
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Wes Sine](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/sine-wes): John and Dyan Smith Professor of Management and Family Business, Cornell’s Johnson College of Business
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Deepak Somaya](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/somaya-deepak): Diane and Stephen N. Miller Professor in Business Administration, University of Illinois
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Devin Stein](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/devin-stein): Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship, University of Alabama
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Bryan Stroube](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/stroube-bryan): Assistant Professor of Strategy, University of Kentucky
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Andras Tilcsik](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/tilcsik-andras): Professor of Strategic Management, University of Toronto
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Florenta Teodoridis](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/teodoridis-florenta): Jorge Paulo and Susanna Lemann Chair in Entrepreneurship and Associate Professor, University of Southern California
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Mary Tripsas](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/tripsas-mary): Sheldon Family Professor of Entrepreneurship, UC Santa Barbara
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Roberto Vassolo](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/vassolo-roberto): Professor in Business Policy, IAE Business School-Universidad Austral
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Pushpika Vishwanathan](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/vishwanathan-pushpika): Assistant Professor, University of Amsterdam
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Heli Wang](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/wang-heli): Janice Bellace Professor of Strategic Management, Singapore Management University
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Tim Weiss](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/weiss-tim): Assistant Professor, Imperial College Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Audra Wormald](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/wormald): Assistant Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship, University of North Carolina's Kenan-Flagler Business School
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Chris Yenkey](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/yenkey-chris): Associate Professor, University of South Carolina
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Jeffrey York](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/york-jeffrey): Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship, University of Colorado at Boulder
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Trevor Young-Hyman](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/younghymantrevor): Assistant Professor of Business Administration and Sociology, University of Pittsburgh
- [Anita McGahan in conversation with Maurizio Zollo](https://pisquared.theburnescenter.org/interviews/maurizio-zollo): Professor of Strategy & Sustainability at Imperial College Business School

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